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Saxon forces advance against Viking raiders to protect their town from being looted
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Ever since first playing
Saga a number of years ago, I was struck by the simplicity of the "bones" of the game. You have just a handful of troop types, with each class being proportionally "better" than the others. The point system gives you fewer of these better troops and more of the lower class troops. I thought it would be a great game to teach folks quickly at a convention, except...! For when you put on the flesh and hair and everything on the bones, it
does add a significant layer of complexity.
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Viking raiders were looking to loot the monastery (right), church (center) & livestock from the village
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What if I strip that back off, though? Do I have a good, simple system for friendly multiplayer games or a convention to teach to new players? That's what this playtest was all about! I was considering running a Viking raid on an Anglo-Saxon village using "Saga Lite" at conventions this year. It gave me a chance to pull out my Saxon church, which I feel is probably still my greatest scratch-build, my monastery, and a host of Dark Ages buildings by
Acheson Creations.
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Viking archers advance through the town's fields, followed by the rest of the force coming ashore
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The game would be set for three players per side, each controlling 4 points of similar troops in Saga. The Viking players would have one more unit of Hearthguard (elite warriors), while the Saxons would instead have an extra unit of Warriors. Twelve points of Vikings would face off against 12 points of Anglo-Saxons on a 6'x4' table. There would be no "Advanced Abilities" on the battle boards. Units activated could rest, move, shoot, or charge. I was also trying a suggestion from the
Firelands Games Group of simultaneous Orders phases followed by alternating activations. Each Viking player would activate one unit, then each Anglo-Saxon player would do the same, alternating until all players had "passed" and were done.
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Allen's Vikings storm ashore and begin their advance towards the Saxon church in the center
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Otherwise, all the normal Saga rules applied. How did it go? I think the only Basic Abilities and alternating activations worked well. In light of the alternating activations, I did change up the Orders Phase a bit. Players were free to leave all their Saga command dice rolled in the "Inactive Dice" section and simply assign one when it was their turn to activate. I felt that worked very well. One major effect I saw of this was the increased use of Combat Bonus. Players would answer their opponent's use of playing a Saga die on Combat Bonus with one of their own. This back and forth had a tactical component, too. More than one player would try to force another player to use his dice to even the score in Combat Bonus in the hopes of limiting how many dice their opponent would have left over when it came to Activations.
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Mike S's Vikings begin their advance with their archers and lighter-armed warriors leading the way
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Was that bad? No. It did slow things down a tad. However, stripping out all of the Advanced Abilities would doubtless cause more dice to be spent on Combat Bonus anyway, right? Since each player had one unit of Levy archers, managing their "Uncommon Dice" (which activate Levy troops) became a concern for players. All in all, I think the Saga Lite modifications flowed well. I don't think it unbalanced the game or slowed it down unduly. In fact, a three per side game of Saga Lite plays WAY faster than a corresponding one using Saga's own big battle, multiplayer rules.
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My warlord, left, watches the Saxon levy archers get into firing position, supported by warriors
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As for the scenario, it was not the success that I was hoping it would be. I had created three looting spots for the Vikings to try to get to during the game. The church was in the middle of the board, the monastery on the Saxon left (capturing the monks and taking them captive), and the pigpen and stables for "animal loot" was on the Saxon right. I made the mistake, though, of putting them up against the Saxon baseline. As it turned out, there was simply no way the Vikings would be able to fight their way through the Saxon defenders and loot those spots. Each side had equal forces, so the Vikings would do well to simply inflict more losses on the Saxons (another victory point consideration besides the loot).
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My fellow Saxon Joel also pushes his troops forward on the left to delay the advance of the Vikings
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We talked about it after we played the game and decided it we were going to re-run it, the loot spots should be put on the centerline of the table. Plus, perhaps the Saxons should have one point of troops less per player to give them a chance to drive off the defenders. In our game, the Saxons were actually winning and inflicting more losses. They knew they could sit back and simply wait for the Viking advance and use their Saga dice to shoot or charge them when they came close enough.
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Keith, protecting his precious pigs, deploys his forces to guard the gaps between the homes
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The game was fun, of course, but the Vikings had no chance of winning the way I had set it up. So, scrap the scenario for Saga Lite, but save the rules adaptions is my verdict! I actually have an idea of how to run a similar version of this scenario with a different set of rules. The players would ALL be Vikings, competing to garner the most loot, slaves, or provisions. I recently purchased Ganesha Games' Sellswords and Spellslingers for possible fantasy or semi-historical coop games next year. In this game, the opposition is played by the game's AI and cards. All the players are on the same side.
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Saxon warriors and Viking hearthguard clash swords and shields as the battle is joined on the left
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So, that's my thought going forward. Have all my players control a few Viking warriors or heroes and they're running around in a Saxon town fighting townsfolk, soldiers, guards, etc., to loot the place. Stay tuned and hopefully I will have a playtest of it before the end of the year. If it works out and is fun, I plan on running it at Cincycon, Drums at the Rapids and Origins Game Fair.
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Towards the end of the battle, the Viking "high water marks" is nowhere near the town's loot
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In the meantime, stay tuned for a couple more updates. I am on to the flocking stages for both the 28mm Water Tower and my Rebel Alliance batch of figures!
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"LOOSE!" My Saxon archers in the center gave a good account of themselves, killing many Vikings
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Miniature Painting & Purchasing Tally for 2024
- Miniatures acquired in 2024: 226
- Miniatures painted in 2024: 230
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Allen in the center made a hard push towards the church, but the Norse dice gods weren't with him
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Great looking table Mike, lovey buildings and miniatures, good read as well.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Donnie! I have always loved Acheson Creations buildings and terrain. Amazing stuff.
DeleteGreat idea for a game; it looks great too.
ReplyDeleteThank you!
DeleteThe advanced abilities are a strength, but a weakness too. At best they give a faction personality. For a casual player rather an obstacle.
ReplyDeleteThey are also the learning curve between an experienced and inexperienced player. They also cause most of the "analysis paralysis" we see in games of Saga. For a fun, multiplayer game, it is fine without. I might look at ONE Advanced Ability per faction just to spice it up, but I'd have to make it fair amongst all the boards. So, not going to happen anytime soon... :)
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